My Commentary at EDT writers - 8th April 2013

8th April 2013

Dear All,

I have always said, I do not much care  about Rishbala, as much as I care for good drama. And at the same time, I like the chemistry between Rishabh Kundra and Madhu.  Most of you are also Rishbala lovers.  And yet, I always see you pained by their love story rather than enjoying it.

May I know why you are always pained and COMPLAINING as if they are torturing you ? What makes you feel so hurt when those two do anything to each other.  

I have seen that I rant, or get hurt when I see any one of them deviating from my pristine understanding of natural traits of man, woman, lovers, haters, social beings, society people and also the elite of the society.  Other than that what they do to each other, I sometimes enjoy and I sometimes would have wished the other to give a smarter answer...takkar ka jawaab.

Like for ex: I never liked Madhubala Malik sending bangles and going after a powerful man...that one mistake being made...which btw Madhu till date has never regretted as having been unnecessary or unwarranted...I have supported her 4 slaps for what RK did to her...not for breaking her engagement, taking away her job and Malik getting injured...but that the man was gloating over his win...he was gloating so much when narrating the entire plan to Madhu over the cell phone...that my blood was boiling...and when he finally very calmly was settled in the thought that his revenge is finished...it was my devilish pleasure to watch Madhu coming and slapping him hard.  At that time I did not care about consequences...like I cared for consequences when Madhu sent the bangles and was relentlessly pursuing the man.  Then she had lot to lose. Now, she had nearly nil to lose.

And since I was no Gandhian and enjoyed the slapping, I knew the revenge game would be there to stay. Just like Madhu never regrets what she did, even Rishabh Kundra also does not regret what he does.

So my question to all of you was...when those two people are ready to play, go to any length to make each other suffer, bend to their wish, why is that you people are always so pained to see them.  Instead why you cannot just enjoy as they are.

Their story was battle of wills in Phase I with hate being the foundation.

Rishabh Kundra really played a dirty game with Madhubala.

And this dirty game can be understood by no one else than her because RK hated her and at one point even she too hated him. So she can understand where he comes from and why took that revenge. Her pain is not that he took revenge in that unforgivable, unfair manner. Her pain is more about her anger and frustration at the man she loved...that when her love could overcome all hatred for him, how the same could not have happened to him. How could he not love her. And her pain for herself is that she knows he loved her and that he doesn't realize it and has now relinquished his rights over her. This has taken away her right too.

In Phase II, Madhu is again teaching RK a lesson, for him to accept/for him to listen to his heart and say it that it makes him immensely happy to see her happy, that he feels loved when he loves her. This is going to be a long fight between the two and for the entire time SUltan will be there. This time of battle of will is...Madhu has picked up the pieces of her life and showing him right in front of his eyes, that I will not wither like you expected me to wither. I shall still have a loving heart unlike you who would be in pain. Madhu keeps telling herself, Trishna, Padmini and audience and even RK, that she doesn't know why she is doing things the way she is doing, what is she trying to prove, but her frustration and pain for the man she loves, when she sees him how he still cares for her unbeknownst to himself, we see how it is expressive of her subconscious desire for him to take her in his arms in love, but all in true realization.

This is going to be one tough fight between the two, when Madhu will be unrelenting (yielding in moments but never yeilding fully to him) making him more and more insecure and crazy, until he would just blurt out that he would bleed to death, if she is not in his life. He will not say I love you Madhu, He will actually say, Madhu you are my life...in true sense he will say, you are my oxygen...and all this will come up as she keeps going away from him the more he plays games with her to hide his love for her and she would see through it.

So that's why I don't understand, why you people always keep asking about RRR of RK...and why you don't see that hate and love almost have same magnitude of energy, just the direction is different...And Madhu would always know about RK's care, love, hate, anger, possessiveness, obsesession in a very knowingly feeling manner, which is why she will not ask RRR from RK, but would just without any apologies, tantrums, shams; want him to take her into his fold. She would be okay with his any kind of drama as long as her aim and objective is getting fulfilled.

And on the ending note...I did not write to offend you all. I felt all this from your posts and so felt like asking. The category of these people will be self-understood.  Those who laugh like me at the drama, obviously will know what I am saying.

Cheers.

ETA: By no means it is prediction. This is what it came out as I understood their story. If the CVs tomorrow show deviation from this, I would personally take it as clunk. For me Madhu is equally strong. So in this second phase, I feel this is how she is supposed to be winning. In this slow manner...where she the one who is hurt, but actually he hurts through her actions...and that too when she defiantly asks him...why she cannot act like that.  Again...personally ...that is still a poetic justice...so who cares for a speedy RRR when slow torture for him is going to give him more pain. lol.

Responded by Angeena

I don't care for RRR really. I enjoy good drama. So I'm pretty cool.

What's irritating me nowadays is the sudden influx of bloopers, logic holes, stupidity in characters .. 

• Shootout at the chawl, and the bodies just vanish?
• Sultan, cold, closed hearted person falls in love within a week?
• Sultan recovers from that bullet wound within a day?
• Madhu actually compares the plight of a heavily pregnant woman with a child to a gangster who has a child & a caretaker? Knowing that while that woman had no money, knew no one at all, and had goons chasing after her to kill her .. that gangster has money, has connections, has the option of fleeing India?

There are so many more.

What happened to the MEIEJ of old where every thing was so meticulously planned? Where even if one was lucky enough to find a logical/ editing mistake, the drama was so so so good that we were able & willing to overlook it without feeling this irritation?

And despite this, I'm here. I'm still glued to my TV set at 8:30pm every night without fail.. because the drama is still good, RK's charisma is still going strong, and RishBala chemistry whether in anger, hate or love is still a spectacular sight to behold.

Responded by  Myself

I agree with you Angeena. Those are my grudges as well, making the show boring.

One thing I know for sure...and may be it shall help you.  The writers are very clear that they need to write a crazy drama and we need to expect the unexpected.  

That's why they show the improbable of Gangster looking a good man and yet falling in love so quickly.   

Why inspite of knowing that, I don't like the track is because, Sultan carries zero entertainment value...because of three reasons

1. He does not do anything in the show (koi haath pair nahin chalte...na dhanda  na kuch kaam)
2. He does not talk. So boring to watch a face without too many dialogues.
3. All his existence is around three other weaklings - an old man, a special child and a woman.

Then when they give him action scenes or dialogues, the CVs give him things that remind us about RK.  And this creates hurt in us...as it looks forceful triangle.  Soon Padmini will say...Madhu...get married to Sultan, because I like him...and Madhu might agree to...then all this hurt of audience is going to be repaid with pleasure when RK brings down the roof with his crazy anger and BBB.

I am just thinking they can go for different techniques, but I guess, they cannot spend so much of creative energy on one soap (else they will be burnt out)...instead they can take up different projects. 

So ultimately writers will go for  already explored/tested/Beta pattern of emotional response for the show...same waves ,,,peaks and troughs

Responded by  Ananya05

Shri,

Loved your post on page 6. Agree to every word.

I know I am one of those people that your post was addressed to.  But I am not at all offended. In fact you gave me a new perspective.

Why am I pained? I honestly have no answer to that. Need to find one soon. But one of the reasons could be that, unlike a lot of people here, I can't say that I watch the show just for good drama. To be honest, I care for Rishbala more than good drama, which might be a wrong way of seeing things. Watching RKs downward spiral is a pain. Watching the charming, suave, intelligent man behave like a possessed and obsessed lover is painful. I know he deserves all of it, but its not too entertaining to watch. But, since the topic has been raised, I have to look for answers and come out clean with them.

Re RRR, I don't expect one, and I don't care if there is none coming. From, where I stand, I don't even see the need of it, as the man is already headed for a breakdown.

The drunk night conversation between RK and Madhu, was a good enough indication for us to figure that, Madhu does not care for RKs redemption. She will never expect or demand an apology from him. She very clearly asks him to listen to his heart. This means, she only expects him to realize his love and bestow it on her without any facade. After that, I gradually made peace that whatever ST or RS may say, there is no RRR coming. If Madhu is very clearly ready to accept him solely once he comes clean with his feelings (again the recent Holi celebration is a testimony to this), viewers can very well forget about the so called redemption.

Besides, I have to admit that the very recent Sultan-Madhu angle bothers me to no end. Sultan provides me no entertainment. His character has no footing according to me and all his scenes are very very forced. The whole track is bloopers galore. I don't see the point of introducing a gangster just for the sake of a triangle. This whole track has to shed some more light. Moreover, CVs are literally making an emotional fool out of us, by asking us to accept the crazy whims of their heroine.

All in all, the entertainment quotient in the show has almost become null.

I hope I will be able to gain a new perspective, and bring myself to enjoy the show again.

Cheers.

Responded by Red_Opium

Lovely post, Ananya ! My original attachment towards the show was RishBala's love story, I'm still crazy about them, but the sudden change in the direction of the show is keeping me less entertained. Turning the show to a gangster's paradise was a much need it move? A new character entry would have made more sense if he was part of the movie industry vs. a incompetent Don. So far, RK remains the most intrigued character, at least this week there will be some drama rather than flat scenes filled by lullaby 

Responded by  Soundarya22

SD - Lovely post on Rishbala on pg 6.I agree. But I want to tweet to ST ...to please think through tracks and not introduce them for the sake of being different. 

Angeena - Loved your post on bloopers. I wanted to write the same thing. Sultan would have worked if the track had been handled better.He has a presence, is able to hold his own  against RK, a calm antithesis to RK's bombastic personality. but they've messed up so badly. Him falling in love with Madhu is so so contrived, I wanted to switch off my TV, not because I cannot bear Sultan-Madhu but because it was sooo ho hum. i could've had a power nap during that scene.  

We are so used to seeing pitch perfect episodes in MB that the recent episodes are beginning to grate on our nerves.  I used to love the whole team for that. Now I'm beginning to think they've lost the plot completely. 

here's to hoping that they manage to get back on track and  break the mould where Tv serials are concerned. 

Responded by Charu

thank you Ananya for this. sums up my feelings as well...Thank you Shri, Zoe,  Soundarya and Jazz for your posts. abs nothing is left to add..with entertainment value nil and bloopers galore episodes, shoddy treatment of the storyline, all characters going down the drain, do we have anything to look forward to? anyways,  as long as Rishbala are together, the hope is still alive...the problem/expectation was never Rishbala or RK's RRR but Sultan in MB...apart from his scenes individually which put me to sleep , will the audience accept a married woman with another guy? or him dreaming of her, knowing that she's married?   stable, REALLY?  here lies the clunk !  they can never develop this track properly bec. they have to retain the good image of Madhu yet make RK look miserable..that means misunderstandings galore and the cliche route of showing the heroine wronged..more tears=more TRP's 

Promos - Stardom & Marriage for Rishbala

Ugta hua suraj Promo 
Check it out. from minute 2:14  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dLF6nPp73M

Superstar RK Filmi Duniya ka tezi se ugta hua suraj, woh suraj jiski nazar padi us sitaare par

jab woh rubaru hue, to qayamat aa gayi

jinke seene mein dil the, woh deewane ho gaye

baaki sajde mein jhuke, woh parwaane ho gaye

Us tanha taare ko suraj ne aisa roshan kiya, ki Madhubala ko ishq aur junoon ki daastan ban gayi

This speaks of only stardom, the deewane and parwaane are audience and fans of RK and Madhubala

The Sapno ki Duniya 4 promos - clubbed together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye0GP6ip7AQ

See all the Marriage Promos

1) Aug 2nd - 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwffNf6DjI

2) Jan 16th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILBSp5mCHs4

3) Feb 9th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_xUeIWN1lU

Media Intrusions in the Superstar's Pvt Life

Episode 173 - 18th Jan 2013

Now my wish...

since they added the MEDIA dialogue from Sikky and Kuku. Kaash ki we are shown few newspaper clippings where RK's in-laws are being discussed. Wonder, if Padmini and Shamsher don't feel harassed/questioned by MEDIA if Sikky and Kukku feel the pestering so much!! I really wish that they showed the paparazzi intrusion...

Originally posted by apolloartemis

Nice to know that there are intrusions in RK's life as a superstar. I wish they would actually show it onscreen every now and then though.

AA,

@bold 2

I too felt that I ended up wishing to be actually shown the scenes of dealing and not just uttering dialogues. We have been hearing dialogues from RK, Bittuji during Shamsher drama,  Kuku-Sikky during RK shot and in hospital drama and now Padmini and Shamsher marriage. 

But how about them showing how Madhu as the wife or her maternal family affected in all of this.

Or are we to assume that Padmini/Shamsher/Trishna/Roma have learned to live under media glare ever since RK entered their life 

Dipali

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_R2nuGx9sE

Deepali

Dipali Track - 24th to 18th October 2012

Post Stranded at the Studio track, we have Dipali Track that aids Rishbala to honour their marriage. She was supposed to be a catalyst for RK and MB to come closer. And that has happened. Rishbala now not only share the room together, they share the bed too with the pillows as the divider. RK upheld his 4-phera marriage with MB and vowed that he will never forget honouring her as his wife. Likewise MB too declared to Dipzy, she will fulfil all the responsibilies of being RK's Dharam-patni even if it was the 4-phera marriage. 

Further Dipzy's endevors to separate the duo worked contrarily, with RK and MB accepting what they are to each other and to Dipzy and how they will not allow a third person to come in between them. Trust on each other leads them to share a comfort level with each other that allows them to have small talks, smile and take liberties with each other to care for the other in the manner they want to. Be it RK holding her leg or calling her to bed or MB indulging in wifey-talk of wanting to know the color preference or asking hubby when he is gonna tie the mauli, or both refusing to answer each other's questions without cudgels in their hands to blow each others brains. 

What was interesting for me to watch in these weeks was MB smiling for the first time in front of RK and happily smiling at him behind his back. What was even more interesting was the title track of MEIEJ played when they were having these cute moments. Yes, if people have noticed, it is the song from Chalti ka Naam Gaadi picturized on Actress Madhubala and sung by Kishore Kumar.

Dipali - Post 18th October to 11th Jan 2013

By Myself (Episode 168 - 12th Jan 2013)

RK-Dips-Madhu ka Break-up

Finally I hope..we will have the much needed break up between the three regarding seeing them together in same quarters. RK quarters was getting to be habitated by RK and his two women...one a 4-phera Biwi and other Ex-mehbooba. All three hinged together.

Today too in the ending scene..Madhu the wife was walking away from the room, RK the husband was at the threshold of the room and Dipali inside the quarters, just like the time when RK brought Biwi to his quarters when Dipali wanted to spend the night with him in his room, adorning it with all candles, right under the nose of her husband Sikky, who still was inhabiting RK mansion.

• Only RK was clear that who gets to stay in his quarters. He asked his Biwi to stay there and he always used to ask Dipali to get out.
• But Shameless Dipali always used to barge in anytime of the day or night...even when husband and wife were in bed on their first day. Even Patranis or concubines have their own rooms. But never I could believe my eyes that this woman gets away by coming into his room...and shameless she and the inmates of RK...no one wonders or asks what the Bhabhi has to do in the Dewar's room.
• And Madhu the wife when not in love, would just let her aadha adhoora pati to have all conversations with this woman, she would wear her saree when she knew her husband would not like her wearing his ex-flame's saree and she wouldn't even remove that saree when RK asks her to. And when later she fell in love with her husband, even then she was telling RK to treat Dipali with respect and not shoo her away.

By MarathiMulgi

My ramblings about Dipali

Today Dipali is staying with me. Initially I did not want to let her linger longer but muze uspar taras aya. Thinking aloud here, Dipali is an intelligent woman with sharp mind, worldly wise and can hold on her own. Today I feel we should not hate her but take pity on her. A woman who let her mind rule her heart in every decision in her life. For all her wittiness and smartness, she has forgotten a simple fact that in the matters of love one should let one's heart rule and let the head take a backseat (easier said than done).
She was not ready to do that 5 years ago and that cost her RK.  Aaj kya hai use paas? Who is in her camp rooting for her? Not even her husband. She stands all alone. Her facade of bravado is borrowed one and she knows that sand under her feet is sinking quickly.
In comparison I think Madhu is standing on the solid ground. She knows and follows the principle ke rishte dil se judte hein dimag se nahin. She is surrounded by love from every where you look. She will deal with this setback with the help of her Ma and Malik if it comes to that but she is not alone. She never was. Even before she was born. How lucky and blessed can one get? I totally envy you Madhu!!!

Can we say the same for Dipali? No!!! I do hope though that somewhere down the line in her life she does find her own salvation.

Can we say Amen to that?

Responded by Myself

As RK's Ex-Flame and what drove Rishabh to love Dipali

I liked it today that RK told us out what he likes in Dips and how he will miss her.

So RK was attracted to Dipali's intelligent mind...the mind games she can induce when she talks in innuendos with a certain classy sense of humour of hers. 

So this goes with RK's character...when him had not much to lose or gain...he was attracted to craziness, challenges etc. In very recent times, we have seen him getting attracted to Balraj's crazy but smart ambulance idea ...only to knock senses to his mind...what is he doing with that crazy guy...Its a separate thing how Balraj makes RK get committed to him. 

Satisfaction to brain/mind is one important aspect of our overall happiness...without which, we can go crazy or depressed.

So RK likes anything that has a bit of game in it. This is consistent with character trait.  I made a long post on my apprehensions about RK's character on this trait and now that he loves Madhu, he needs to curb his desires for gaming. This was on episode where Balraj made his re-entry.

Responded by MarathiMulgi

Liked your take on Dipali-RK situation. I agree that when Dipali came into the room, instead of driving her out, he drew her into situation of matching wits. All said and done, she is the only one so far who he can interact with on an intelligent level however good or bad. Given that RK is an intelligent man, he  needs that outlet somewhere. His innocent bacchi jaisi biwi is no match for him in this. I am not saying what he is doing is good. I think he just could not resist it, got overconfident and went too far.

By Priya

@Shri - ITA with you on the relationship that RK and Dips might have shared and what might have attracted her to him. She is definitely the one person who can match up to his wits and that clearly might have been one of the reasons why he was attracted to her in the first place five years ago. Madhu is a peson who is very young, naive and innocent coming from a lower middle class family and does not have the knowledge of worldly ways. Her character is in stark contrast to Dipali who is mentally sharp and resourceful in a twisted way and knows how to inflict emotional pain and distress with her acerbic tongue. In a way, RK is or was somewhat similar like Dips prior to falling in love with Madhu who is from a totally different background but her simplicity, honesty and integrity is what attracted him to her and after today Dips will come to know that what she thought would attract RK to her and keep him from going back to Madhu is no longer the case and he would do anything to get Madhu and win her trust back. It is going to be a tough job for RK because whatever seeds of doubt that Dips sowed about Madhu is cleared from his mind but instead it is now sowed in Madhu's mind who is probably going through the same emotions and feelings of hurt (even more if you ask me because she did not restrain herself from completely giving herself up for him, the girl was truly latoo over him) that RK went through when she did not respond to his question of leaving everyone behind immediately. We saw the level of hurt he was experiencing when he did not even give her a chance to answer him but in Madhu's case, the hurt, the pain, and the anger is twinfold because she sees him first hand thanking Dips for challenging him and asking him to test her which proved that he was right all along.

By Soundarya

@Zoya - This is going to be one rambling post. Agree with the above, want to add my thoughts to Yesterday, i  went back five years to the prequel, before RK became RK, before Madhu happened to RK. Imagine RK in those days, arrogant, talented, intelligent (creative artists are arrogant in their own talent, they don't necessarily need success to become arrogant)...a rebel without a cause,(or so we're meant to think for now, I still feel there's more to explore)  imagine his relationship with Radha, Kukku, Sikky, what a life at home.

iMagine a much younger RK and Dipali, both strugglers in the film industry...that struggle itself is one strong bond, then they fell in love. Whether Dipali was in love is suspect, but RK was in love, or so he thought. What does he get attracted to...intelligent banter, good looks, he gets turned on by a takkar ki ladki, which Dipali is, and must have been even then. 

By virtue of being in a relationship, Dipali knows RK and Rishabh, very well, and she must have constantly played one against the other even 5 years ago. And RK must have revelled in it, maybe we can attribute it to his age, when you're young, there's always a certain image you want to portray to your peers, and RK must have been fun to play.

In reality, while Dipali  is attracted to RK, she does'nt respect Rishabh the softie. Which is why she ditches him. Even today, she is always taunting Rishabh. She miscalculated, married Sikky. Rishabh closes himself to hurt, and becomes RK in full strenght. 

Did I make sense??? This is me making up my own prequel story.

Over Episode 168 - January 2013- RK-Dipali Equation Fixing Track

I always wanted Dipali to be kicked out from RK's life with his fights with her ...with Madhu present there watching both of them in RK Mansion...because RK did not get the chance to fight with Dips  with her becoming his Bhabi and him forcefully required to be gentleman and avoid all such talks at his home. He was able to fight Dipali regarding his success in his acting career where he succeeded and she failed, when she abandoned him for her career. Personal jilt in love was never addressed by RK, because he was busy becoming successful in career and moreover, she later became his Bhabhi, officially closing the venue for them to talk/fight.

Now this bitter fight with Dipali  in present times after Madhu's entry into his life, is allowing him to not to get into a tight spot with family and his Biwi being actually to be a witness to everyone that ...RK has not taken advantage of his Bhabhi's honour...if Dipali tries to slander RK as if he was seducing her etc...   

This track is all about RK's washing off his hands with Dipali forever. Because every love affair needs to have exit fights as well. And with his repeated fights with Dipali is making him lose his anger with Dipali for having jilted him in love.  

And today even if Dips is smirking at Madhu being so shocked and hurt, what she is not understanding is she has lost it permanently with RK. Because now RK is going to run after Madhu to win her back and not turn to Dipali like she may be dreaming.

Remember that movie...Julia Roberts one...My Best Friends Wedding...how Rupert Everett asks Julia...look behind you...is anyone running after you ? 

Ofcourse Dips is more evil than  Julia Roberts and she played a better psychological game with RK in her revenge plan ...but inadvertantly she showed RK what is more precious to him...his love for Madhu and her respect and honour in tact, her view about him or his anger and insecurities for all NON-MADHU items in his life. 

So peeps, be happy...Dipali -RK Equation is NOW OFFICIALLY FINISHED !! 

I am so happy now !!!!! Hurray!!!

By dramacrazy12

The way I see it Dips is a very complicated problem and regardless of what RK/Madhu does she gains. She is aware of that very fact and hence she keeps taking her shamelessness up a notch every single time.

Let us look at the current family equation- Rk does not get along with rest of his family and insults them on a regular basis. Radha does not know or trust her son to a point that she is able to believe every single thing that Dips and Bhatias feed her. She is depending on Madhu to singlehandedly mend that relation but given her weak personality it would not take much for her to become against Madhu specifically if she thinks that Madhu is taking RK away from the family. RK in general is considered a very vindictive and unpredictable personality. His panache for playing mind games and destroying his opponent is well known. In truth RK is a gentleman with immense emotional maturity however his past  failures in relationships which he terms as betrayals are his weakness and nemensis. He genuinely wants to move on with Madhu and not cause any angst either to Radha or Bhatias. He wants to forget but not forgive. Madhu is just beginning to know RK, however she is fiercely fillial and righteous and seems to ignore the deep emotional undercurrents. She is quick to judge and believe partly because of her sheltered life until now. Dips is established as good elder daughter-in-law in the household and seems to have influence over Radha. No one seems to be aware of Dips-RK connection from past.

It also seems that Dips is tired of Sikky and wants to get rid of him and pursue RK. Sikky seems to be invested in the relationship though and no one is aware of discord between the couple.

So let us see what Rishbala  can do

1)RK can routinely insult Dips and ban her from entering his room-He does that in every episode but Dips is shameless enough to pursue him still. The rest of the family turns a blind eye to his reaction because they think he does that as is his habit with rest of the family. Radha actually lets Dips pursue RK because she thinks that Dips is being a good elder daughter-in-law and is trying to draw RK in family circle despite all the insults. She also thinks that RK might be more responsive to Dips than Radha since he holds no personal grudge gainst Dips. If Madhu gets in this picture- Dips is going to cry foul and blame her for distancing RK from rest of the family. Given how much control she has over Radha, it could create a rift between Radha and Madhu relationship.

2)RK reveals all - To begin with this goes against the grain of his character as this is equivalent of kiss and tell. What does that do? Dips admits and than blames RK for seducing her . With the sort of vindictive image RK has, who is going to believe him that Dips is the shameless one. It breaks Dips-Sikki marraige leaving her to to chase not only a huge divorce settlement but also pursue RK more openly. The issue creates further rift between Bhatias and RK - Radha ends up in an impossible situation where she will end up taking Kuku Bhatia's side. If the news becomes public(Sikki's way of getting back at RK)- Rk is caught in a scandal which might impact his career, Madhu and Maliks are embarrased and pitied, Dips gets get moment in spotlight and an opportunity to jumpstart her career. In all everyone except Dips loses.

3)They can move out- That is exactly what RK is planning on doing. He wants to move out and kill the reason Dip pursues him-his success. But this is a time taking process specifically with the promise he had made to Madhu.

While writers have used Dips as devil on RK's shoulder and Seema Mishra has done an amazing job with her character  yet something seems missing. Why has Dips has stepped up pursuing RK so badly now after 5 long years? what does she intend to achieve? She clearly does not want him to believe in love so she is not shooting for a love relationship. Here are couple of choices-

1)She did indeed care for him and wants him back since she never got over him.

2) He is sucessfull and hence a big catch with huge purse

3) She is jealous of Madhu and her influence on RK.

4)She is unable to forgive RK for falling in love and being happy with Madhu, a chawl girl while she the sophisticate has to carry on a sham of a marraige with wimpy Sikki. The idea being if I can't have him no one can.

5)She had always believed that RK would be open to a extramarital affair and would shower her with his love and money even if she was his sister-in-law. If not for love then just to stick it to the Bhatias.

6)She is a sadist who enjoys the gloom and misery around her .She tends to use the sorrow and chaos to increase her power and get her will done.

By Zorica

I'm just going to quote what you said, and to add an illustration.

Zoya said:

RK-Dipz scene was as usual fabulous. Dipz was at her best, playing her usual old tricks(love in his life, his only weak point) that have worked till date. But today, RK shut her up and started flushing out the zeher in his heart, he had for her w.r.t. the love angle. For the first time, he tells her that she has lost him five years back and the intezaar in his life yielded him the best fruit. It was too good to see a fearful and horrified Dipali when she knows that she has lost the battle she has been successfully waging for five years and that she can no longer unnerve him. And the evil laugh and the smirk when she realized Madhu has overheard their convo was just too good. But am sure that laugh would turn out to be hollow in the coming days. She is such a sadistand I can't believe that she claimed to love RK once. Hopefully this is the much needed and most awaited Dipali closure in his life!!!

Shridevi said:

RK-Dips-Madhu ka Break-up

Finally I hope..we will have the much needed break up between the three regarding seeing them together in same quarters. RK quarters was getting to be habitated by RK and his two women...one a 4-phera Biwi and other Ex-mehbooba. All three hinged together.

Today too in the ending scene..Madhu the wife was walking away from the room, RK the husband was at the threshold of the room and Dipali inside the quarters, just like the time when RK brought Biwi to his quarters when Dipali wanted to spend the night with him in his room, adorning it with all candles, right under the nose of her husband Sikky, who still was inhabiting RK mansion.

• Only RK was clear that who gets to stay in his quarters. He asked his Biwi to stay there and he always used to ask Dipali to get out.
• But Shameless Dipali always used to barge in anytime of the day or night...even when husband and wife were in bed on their first day. Even Patranis or concubines have their own rooms. But never I could believe my eyes that this woman gets away by coming into his room...and shameless she and the inmates of RK...no one wonders or asks what the Bhabhi has to do in the Dewar's room.
• And Madhu the wife when not in love, would just let her aadha adhoora pati to have all conversations with this woman, she would wear her saree when she knew her husband would not like her wearing his ex-flame's saree and she wouldn't even remove that saree when RK asks her to. And when later she fell in love with her husband, even then she was telling RK to treat Dipali with respect and not shoo her away.

Dipali was the worst character and track introduced by CVs to create drama.

(unquote)

And just to illustrate:

The Clunk Present in Dipali Character

By Myself

Dipali was the worst character and track introduced by CVs to create drama. Seema Mishra must have impressed people with her acting, but her character to the story was plain disgusting and an unfathomable CLUNK to the Story. Because she rendered Rishabh Kundra the socially married person to an almost NAKAARA Napunsak, who couldn't keep the woman away from his quarters. She also rendered Madhu, the wife in love/devotion letting the woman roam around in their quarters freely as if none of it bothers her. Can any woman believe this ? I mean simple question is Ek Mayaan mein Do Talwaaren Kaisi ? Why Madhu would never understand this ?

No matter, how much interesting drama Dipali must have generated, but all of it was PLAIN CLUNK. 

CVs,

Please do register this feedback on permanent basis in your book and you RETIRE DIPALI. We don't need a character that just is clunky device. Treat this as a disapprobation for turning a husband and wife into Napunsaks at having been unable to stop her barging into their quarters any time. No amount of RK insecurities and Madhu innocence will actually allow me to overlook the fundamental CLUNK present in the story through Dipali. At real, I don't know how many husbands and wives could tolerate this drama. 

By Zoya

Yesterday, in that scene, RK was taunting Dipali that she was a loser on all fronts and has nothing but to crave and wait for her dream life. And he was talking about his success and indirectly her failures. But still, the woman was highly shameless, that she made a move on him provocatively when she was pinned to the wall.It was disgusting. And RK just shirked back and moved away from her...

So even yesterday, despite RK supposedly having the upperhand and he having hit her weak nerve, was still getting bullied.. The  CV's need to make RK stronger than her and not cower down in front of her. He needs to stop getting bullied. It's a hit to his manhood in the first place and no man would entertain such things, however insecure they are... Secondly, thisdoesn't go down well with his powerful persona too.. You don't expect a person like him to let someone ,  (that someone ditched him for godsake),  daunt him.. You're supposed to be vengeful and it has to be shown in his acts.. Ok  she might be his bhabhi and for the supposed betterment of his family, he is keeping shut, but still there would be other ways to keep her in check...In the beginning ,I used to think, prolly, he doesn't want to waste his time and energy, as it's completely useless and this woman is going to remain shameless.

But from the time of Dipali's entry till now, her audacity and shamelessness has only increased(even in front of the family, during the daal-chawal nautanki of his or at the time when the jasoos told that she was found in RK's room before this guy fled off to Karjat or when Radha entered the room and RK was shirtless and she said, came to give him milk,mads hadn't even shifted to his room then.. It was abhorring for me!!! Is the family dumb? )  and RK is just being pathetic by being a weakling in front of her.. There has to be growth in RK's character on this front...They can't butcher his character by making Dipali stronger and stronger and him weaker and weaker...

I rest my case here...

P.S: I needed to get this out of my system.. This has been plaguing my mind since y'day night..

By Ananya

Shri,

Re ur post on deepali character plot clunk post, i totally agree. Deepali is truly a pathetic woman.shameless beyond my imagination. I hv always been surprised and angry at RK for not being able to deal with the 'seductress' deepali, n dis goes bk to the day her character ws introduced. She comes n blabbers all nonsense to him abt der passionate nights in d past n he is tongue tied. Why cnt he tell her off? N den wen she decorates his room to create romantic ambience (wat woman wud to dat under her husbands n MILs nose? Pathetic), he has to use madhu to dispense deepali by bringing her to his room. I did not like dat at all. How was he dealing wid her before madhu came into his house? All these 5 years, she hs been lurking around his room hoping tht he wud give in?

The story Phases of MEIEJ

From My episode take

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RK was visibly affected by her presence at the set watching him do his romantic scenes. Now I wonder why would that happen. It is natural that Madhu feels discomfort  that she is having to watch him holding someone else than her (can I risk saying envious...because that is a genuine and honest feeling...even I couldn't watch any other female with Andrew )...but why was he is so hesitant and disturbed ? So does RK's heart actually flutter nowadays when he sees Madhu? Around the end of the episode...he is a goner unable to control himself and holding on to her...

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Until few days back...until he showed his dream house to Madhu and he saw her reaction to his will , Rishabh Kundra was all about "Madhu you are mine, I Love You and I know you Love me...No doubt about it"

At their dream house scene, he was overwhelmed by her concern and thought for him...remembering his dad's chair. And at the time of will in making scene, for the first time, she shut him to say, she loves him more than him and his ego not minding her having an upperhand. Though it never hurts us or Madhu for him to have an upperhand always, because he is so right in all cases considering the way he thinks and considering the way Madhu responds to him in an overall manner, it is actually pleasing for all of us to see that it does not hurt him anymore for him to listen to her, or have nothing to answer her back or show his attitude. This way it is a little bit healthy with balance being restored in their relationship, considering they are both good human beings. Much needed healthy balance between them...that can slowly fill up Rishabh's mind with security and slowly loosen himself...

Now is this losing bit by bit his ego, his insecurity when in love with Madhu, now causing him to feel all jittery in Madhu's presence ? There was a time, when Madhu was a goner. Today, we saw RK losing himself, his ground...he was being a goner in love with Madhu.

So how has their relationship progressed and what held it all along for them ?

Enigma, Sensitivity, Trust and Softness for Each Other

I would say, unknown phase, hate phase, knowing phase, of falling in love phase, they never had problem trusting each other. Infact of all things that they knew about each other was to trust each other in every manner about their selves inspite of having all the differences between each other. They never had doubts about each other's intents except the time when Madhu got caught in Kuku and Sikky's scheme to get RK's fathers pics published. Then RK was hurt and felt betrayed and yet he did not let her go. Likewise tomorrow, will be another day when RK gets caught with Dips ploy of love test for Madhu. Now Madhu will be hurt and felt betrayed. I am sure, she too will not let him go...because these two though hurt themselves, they cannot see the other person hurt and in pain. Then RK after avenging himself by getting Shamsher sign the contract, he became Madhu's doctor forcefully inspite of him too crying during the day. And now, we don't know what Madhu will do to RK, but question is will she be able to see him in pain.

And what will keep holding them together ? I guess the Enigma will get replaced by Knowledge and everything else shall remain the same...

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Now about the thing that Zorica and me are planning to work on... Before I take a plunge into it, need you guys to give me a feedback on the structure and pattern observed over the story so far...

The story Phases of MEIEJ

Introduction of MEIEJ

Character Introduction until Mukund Accident

Stage set for Rishbala to meet

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Phase I - Rishbala -Finding and Holding Each Other

1. The Accident Track - Silly and inexplicable as it is
2. The Revenge Track - can't blame it !
3. The Never Ending Saga - The Need to know what is the relationship between the two ?
4. The Proposal and Acceptance to Marry - End

Underlying Passions and Emotions

• Madhu's obsessive Action - to take RK to justice
• RK's Emotional Angry Response - to avenge himself over Madhu's attempt to play with his life
• Rishbala Passions- Holding each other thru arresting enigmatic thoughts about each other.

Phase II - Rishbala -Knowing and Accepting Each Other

• The 4 Phera Aadha Adhoora Marriage Track - allows to know each other, what they are
• Hate Marriage lived and played in Passion - The 9th servant in the House and Spot Girl at Work and The rebellious Biwi with Jaanwar Pati
• The Aadha Adhoora Marriage Accepted by the Biwi and Pati - Studio Track and Dipali Introduction track
• Death of Hate for each other and Resurrection of Acceptance of each other's place in their Life - The Ganesha festival, Getting Shot Track
• Being Together for each other - Hospital Track - End

Underlying Passions and Emotions

• RK's obsession - To control and Play Madhu just like she played him - You are mine to play with.
• Madhu's Rational Response - to not to cower down to RK
• Rishbala Feelings - Knowing each other thru the mutual friction and mutual emotional response to each other.
• Madhu's Obsession - to Change RK
• RK's Rational Response -Let's see how it goes..
• Rishbala Feelings - Accepting each other for what they are to each other - Not just playthings, but to be partners, being together.

Phase III- Rishbala - Caring and Falling in Love with Each Other

• Taking Care of her Recovering Husband - Recovery Track
• Reconciling to his Father's Death - Recovery Track
• The Budding Attraction expressed openly - Recovery Track & Jagraata Track
• Taking Care, Giving rights and Protecting his Innocent Wife - Jagraata Track
• The growing understanding, attraction and budding love between the couple -Shamsher - the killer revelation track
• Honoring the Marriage for real -Karva Chauth Track
• The Love Confession - the End

Underlying Passions and Emotions

• Madhu's Obsession and Love - to take care of RK, to show her allegiance and reverence to RK, holding him higher over everyone and even herself
• Rishabh's obsession - Not to get emotionally weaker before Madhu, to honour her rights to the point of neglecting his own interest and principles
• RK's Rational Response - to oblige her demands around him, to privilege her with her rights, take care of his Biwi and her wishes, to protect her innocence.
• Rishbala Feelings - Giving in to each other, attracted to each other,  falling in Love with each other.

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Phase IV - Rishbala -Loving and Respecting/Listening to Each Other - Work in Progress

• Testing and Proving Love - RK to Madhu - Let's Leave. Madhu to RK - Not Yet
• The Anger, The pain , The Insecurities and Issues understood
• Let's Fix Each other's Insecurities and Issues and then Leave. Okay Madhu?  Yes RK.
• Then let's get married the right way and let's Leave. Yes RK
• The deepening Love for each other with growing regard at each other's efforts at fixing things, with lots of dreams and few apprehensions.
• Something that Madhu will ask and RK will have to listen - WIP (in coming week, we will know)
• Learning to respect each other in knowing sense - Work in Progress

Underlying Passions and Emotions

• Rishabh's obsession - Not to lose Madhu's Love, to defeat his Unlucky Fate and hence renunciating his stardom life, to Fix Madhu's issues
• Madhu's obsession - to fix RK's relationship with his mother
• Rishbala Love - learning to respect each other's wishes,  Fulfilling them, Lots of dreams around the promise of eternal happiness with each other with  few Apprehensions

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Now in parallel...there is also something going on for a major shift in Story... 

New Beginnings from Ashes - We don't know what's going to be burnt and what's going to rise from the ashes...

Underlying theme : Unlucky and Accursed and Doomed by the nagging and dogging past approaching with Fury ---Told by Dipali that RK is jinxed, Cursed by Trishna that Rishbala can never have a happy conjugal life, pursued by Balraj that Madhu cannot live

and hence using all these tracks.

1. Dipali's Revenge Plan, Trishna's Curse and Balraj's unfinished business
2. Let's Fix and Leave where there is just you and me for eternity
3. RK renunciating Stardom Track, Trishna Movie launch , Padmini-Marriage Track,  Radha and RK Reconciliation
4. 7 phera Marriage Track,  RK-Madhu Dream House and RK's will
5. Balraj producing Trishna Movie Track and Balraj's vengeance Track and Dipali enjoying the fruits of her Revenge Plan

By the end of it something other than what we know of Rishbala Lovestory should happen

Creative Team

Title Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnUvNGpDzK0

Present Story Writing Team

Concept - Prashant Bhatt

Story - Sourabh Tiwari

Episodic Story - Shivani Shah and Abhishek Kumar

Screenplay - Gautam Hegde and Janki V

Dialogue - Raghubir Shekhawat

Note:

Previous Dialogue writer Anand Vardhan was the story writer for Hera Phera movie.

Hera Pheri - Anand Vardhan

Senior Creative - Mukta Dhond

DOP - Ganesh G Sankla

Editor - Rochak Ahuja

Supervising Producer - Sujoy K Roy

Second Unit Director - Gopal Jha

Director - Prasad Gaavandi and Amit D Malik

Audiors - AMS Financial Advisers Pvt Ltd.

Choreographer - Vitthal Paatil

 Costumes - Ritu Deora

Stylists - Shirley Daavar and Nikunj Vyaas

Associate Art Director - Rajeev Ranjan

Lyrics - Vibha Tiwari

Sound recording - Jay Kumar Dubey

Online Editor - Hemant Kumar Vaalendra Singh

Production Controller - Vijay Kundarkar

Fourth Set that MEIEJ created besides the water-body (talaab/pond).

1. They use it for RK meditation trips as in being in thoughts with his father.
2. Used as cremation ground for Mohan Kundra
3. Used for RK telling his "Teen Dhoke"
4. Using now for Madhu and RK's saat phere. (You can see the same wooden frame which will soon hold the noose for Madhu when Balraj kidnaps her and brings to this same place.)
5. Using for PAdmini and Shamsher Marriage
6. Kidnapping Jahsn by Balraj

Creative Art Director, Locations Manager and Stunts Director. What a crew !!!! Running by given budget. What a recycling!!!!

The dark/black columns will turn to clean beige and red hued columns in shaadi  and kidnapping sequences.

The team's efforts

I will appreciate the CVs that as a team, they have a strong foundation. Almost everyone in their crew agrees on the vision, which is entertainment FILMI style. So everything is BOMBASTIC. And so filmi hero, filmy heroine and filmy dialogues and filmy kahani.  Then I also like the fact that, their love story has a progression that is very human. This appeals to all age groups. The passion gives meaning to all age groups because we cannot say that old people stop loving or don't know what is romance. But since their story is not that smooth, the love story has adult questions, principles challenged which appeal the grown ups as well, which is the TRP generating group. Then I like the actors commitment to this drama.

Stunts...yes we laugh. But thank God! we don't have real life villainous fights. Those are ugly and we cannot even sleep after reading about them in newspapers. So anyone looking for reality, may just replace Balraj kidnapping Madhu and having that noose with song and dance, with her being trapped in a dungeon with people trying to touch her...the noose drama is much better.

Atleast after a decade (isn't it about that time when Ekta popularised Saas Bahu sagas), they have brought through MEIEJ, a soap like NUKKAD back on TV. Nukkad was human and entertaining with best actors in the serial. For those who do not know, it as a Doordarshan soap in 80's. MEIEJ holds the same canvas with entertainment. Aaj iski kahani kal uski kahani, in the same RK-MB world. Do I not see the same Nukkad in Balika Vadhu then ? NO. Nope, That serial has objective and social message, but it is low on entertainment for me. It is definitely not rugged and fast like Nukkad style.

SUPERSTAR RK'S SUPER-SIZED MANSION - PART 1

http://www.aapkacolors.com/us/videos/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/superstar-rks-supersized-mansion-part-1-16554.html

SUPERSTAR RK’S SUPER-SIZED MANSION – PART 2

http://www.aapkacolors.com/us/videos/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/superstar-rks-supersized-mansion-part-2-16574.html

Originally posted by tabby999

CREDIT FB PAGE 

My response

Thank you Angeena. You pulled the article here before it was closed on the main page.

When I was reading the interview, I felt Sourabh's passion, ambition, hardwork, pain and what not...no wonder his team...cast and crew is so dedicated. What he speaks gets to you.

He said exactly the things I like about his show...the human aspect of the show, shown in dramatic manner, which becomes relatable and yet entertaining...and that his shows need to create noise. I like that.

I wish him all the best in his endeavors. 

And like he said, I appreciate his core team...Mukta Dhaound, Sanjay Singh, Gautam Hegde, Janki V, Raghubir Shekhawat, Shivani and Abhishek. I already remember their names. 

27th February

For those who missed the link for RS interview in the Media thead.

Page 137 on the original thread

Audio Interview with Raghubir Shekawat...

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3458529

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41dYCrM7Ljg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4qSfxKOYXM

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Interesting Interviews

From FWAINDIA (The Film Writers Association of India)

Sonali Jaffer (original story team for MEIEJ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvbF08XTPv4

After her, Sourabh Tewari completely took over.

Listening to her interview, I feel it was good ST replaced the team. Because, she is more for TRP type of writing and not for inspirational writing. Her show Byah haamari Bahu ka failed when they focussed on male lead...I am not focussing on her failure, I am seeing that she is more about team work, listening to her producers and has been Balaji's inhouse writer. In comparison, MEIEJ is about the male lead. And ST and others had conviction in that male character, so they went after inspiration and worked for TRP figures...kind of out of the box writing.

In contrast listen to RS interview, he is more about being inspired.  Also he is more of Viacom writer and can closely gel with co-viacom creatives like Prashanth Bhatt and ST associated with Viacom...

Raghuveer Shekhawat (present dialogue-writer of MEIEJ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgUQiGHEQ-w

And more from FWA

http://www.youtube.com/user/FWAINDIA/videos